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Leaving the nest

Geraldine Doogue — Tue, 03 Nov 2026 06:17:14 +0000

Pilgrim, disciple or none? Joe Wehbe and Grace Brennan bring their take on modern leadership and synodality as they make sense of what an evolving church means for them. They explore with Geraldine Doogue and Julie Thorpe the balance between belonging and searching, the role of schools and parishes and what kind of new structures – and stories – might give shape to a future synodal church.

Joe, Grace, Julie and Geraldine recommend:

Catholic theologian and philosopher Tomáš Halík argues that the difference between belief and non-belief is not as great as you’d think in The Irish Times
Rowan Williams, The Skills of Survival, in The Tablet
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Who will lead the Australian church?

Geraldine Doogue — Sun, 25 Oct 2026 01:40:02 +0000

What can Australia offer a global church that is learning to walk together? Geraldine Doogue and Julie Thorpe are joined by Anne Benjamin and Charles Burford, Catholic educators and co-authors of a new book, Leadership After the Synod, to discuss what kind of leaders we need on the ground to be able to develop that synodal vision. Synodality is a culture, Anne and Charles argue, and cultures don't form without leaders willing to shape them. So how might the Catholic Church in Australia take shape – across hospitals, schools, parishes, dioceses and beyond – if leaders asked themselves: what would we look like at our best?

Links mentioned:

Anne Benjamin and Charles Burford, Leadership after the Synod, Garratt Publishing
Pope Leo's address to UNESCO
Rowan Williams, The Skills of Survival, in The Tablet
Tomas Halík, What Europe can offer the global Church, in The Tablet
Cardinal Mario Grech's events in Melbourne on 4th November and Sydney on 5th November organised by University of Notre Dame Australia's Global Centre for Catholic Leaders
Kim Daniels' public lecture on AI, Pope Leo and The Future of Human Dignity in the Diocese of Parramatta

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From Austria to Australia: 175 years of the Jesuit mission at Sevenhill

Geraldine Doogue — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 13:15:42 +0000

At Sevenhill in South Australia’s Clare Valley, Julie Thorpe joins Jesuit priest Fr Brendan Kelly to uncover a remarkable journey from revolutionary Europe to the Australian frontier. Marking 175 years since the mission began, they explore the spirituality of its Austrian founders, their encounters with the Ngadjuri people, and the creative adaptation captured in Fr Alois Kranewitter’s enduring words: patience, courage and hope.

Recommendations:

Sevenhill Cellars Heritage Trail
Rowan Williams, The Skills of Survival, in The Tablet

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Is the Vatican the last international?

Geraldine Doogue — Fri, 25 Sep 2026 12:51:43 +0000

As the institutions that once held the world order together falter, can a transatlantic pope bridge the gulf between competing global visions? Historian Massimo Faggioli speaks with Geraldine Doogue about whether the Vatican is 'the last international' that can offer an alternative voice on democracy, technology and human dignity. But how much can the leader of a global church realistically carry without becoming, as Massimo warns, a spent force?

Massimo Faggioli is professor of historical theology at Villanova University. His latest book, Leo XIV and the Global Church: Unity and Peace, is published by Liturgical Press. You can also keep up with his writings on Commonweal and Global Catholic.

More recommendations:

Tomas Halík, ‘What Europe can offer the global Church’ in The Tablet
E.J. Dionne Jr, 'The U.S.-Born Pope Is Changing U.S. Catholicism' in Commonweal
Colleen Dulle, 'Vatican Notebook: The convening power of the church' in America Magazine

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The Forbidden Call: Women Priests with filmmaker Marie Mandy

Geraldine Doogue — Wed, 16 Sep 2026 05:08:22 +0000

What happens when a woman’s vocation collides with centuries of Church tradition? Geraldine Doogue and Julie Thorpe speak with award-winning Belgian filmmaker Marie Mandy about The Forbidden Call: Women Priests, her documentary following women who have defied the Vatican’s ban on ordination, and those still pressing for change from within. With Pope Francis and now Pope Leo appointing more women to senior Vatican positions, and leading cardinals imagining the possibility of women priests, how might women's visibility at the altar reshape the Catholic Church's future?

Thanks to Marie Mandy for permission to use audio from her film, The Forbidden Call: Women Priests, which won the Leslie J. Sacks Grand Prize at the 2026 Women's Voices Now Film Festival.

'Weimar America'? Christianity and the battle for meaning

Geraldine Doogue — Tue, 18 Aug 2026 11:12:12 +0000

For decades, The Australian’s foreign editor Greg Sheridan has written about politics and faith as a veteran observer of the United States and author of three books on Christianity. He joins Geraldine Doogue to discuss the crisis of meaning among young men in particular and warns that Christianity in the US is increasingly being pulled into ideological contests in ways that distort its central message. Drawing on the insights of Holocaust survivor Viktor Frankl, cited in Pope Leo’s encyclical, Sheridan argues that societies stripped of meaning become vulnerable to fear and extremism, on all sides. So how can churches provide a credible alternative to nihilism?

Books mentioned:

How Christians Can Succeed Today: Reclaiming the Genius of the Early Church by Greg Sheridan
Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
Gilead by Marilynne Robinson
The Benedict Option by Rod Dreher
Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010 by Charles Murray

Further recommendations:

Pope Leo's address to writers at the Vatican
Australian Catholic Bishops Conference Social Justice Statement, August 2026, 'Living the Gospel in Times of Social Division'

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Leo to cardinals: 'I need your support'

Geraldine Doogue — Wed, 01 Jul 2026 01:20:13 +0000

While the world looks to Pope Leo for moral authority, he's looking to the cardinals for moral support. Br Mark O'Connor has been in Rome as the cardinals met against a backdrop of escalating conflicts and Leo's interventions on the limits of war. He tells Julie Thorpe that Leo's message to the cardinals sets a clear direction for a synodal church in continuity with Francis' papacy. Leo's first encyclical and his recent visit to Spain – where his appeal to Europe's complex past and focus on migrants came to the fore – reveal a pope finding his voice amid pressure from both the geopolitical stage and the church's internal critics.

Recommendations:

Mark O'Connor's first and second 'soundings from Rome' in Catholic Outlook
Pope Leo's address to Spanish leaders
Massimo Faggioli, A ‘Leonine’ Version of Synodality? in Commonweal
Harvard historian Jill Lepore's piece on the pope's encyclical in The New Yorker
Our 5-part mini-series on changing belief

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Changing belief: where to from here?

Geraldine Doogue — Fri, 26 Jun 2026 03:23:09 +0000

In this final conversation in our mini-series on changing belief, Geraldine Doogue, Julie Thorpe, Grace Brennan and Joe Wehbe draw together some of the questions they've been left with: the evolving role of tradition, setting aside old habits and picking up new ones, the place of friendship, the language of search, and ultimately where belief goes from here.

Mentioned in this episode:

Iain McGilchrist, The madness of the West , The Tablet
Lamorna Ash, How I became a poster girl for Christianity, The Observer
Geraldine's interview with Canadian theologian Catherine Clifford at the synod in Rome

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Changing belief: between faith and fiction

Geraldine Doogue — Wed, 10 Jun 2026 22:07:39 +0000

Joe Wehbe sits down with his brother Mitchell to reflect on their family's Maronite background, their changing relationships to church, and finding meaning in anime. The journey of belief – from an Uber Eats God to a pirate healer – has led both brothers on a different but often surprising story arc between faith and fiction.

Joe and Mitch's TV show recommendations:

ONE PIECE
The Light in Your Eyes
Attack on Titan
Lost
Harry Potter

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Changing belief: faith in the bush

Geraldine Doogue — Fri, 29 May 2026 11:05:56 +0000

What does it mean to wrestle with belief while living remotely in rural Australia? In this episode of our mini-series on changing belief, Grace Brennan speaks with Maddie Burnheim – raising her family on a property in western New South Wales – about her relationship with Catholicism, sitting out her doubts, the rituals of a bush christening, and the times when faith turns up and steers you home. 'There are things still that don't sit right with me,' Maddie tells Grace, 'but I now use my faith as a tool to get back on track.'

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Changing belief: beyond the manosphere

Geraldine Doogue — Sun, 24 May 2026 03:03:12 +0000

In episode two of our miniseries on changing belief, Geraldine Doogue and Julie Thorpe explore why so many young men are drawn to online communities that promise seemingly a secure hold amid so much sliding from their grasp: education, jobs, relationships. With demographer Simon Kuestenmacher, they look at the pull of the manosphere, the hunger for belonging and whether older wisdom traditions can still offer a meaning – beyond the clicks.

Mentioned in this episode:

Adrian Rosenfeldt's Eureka Street article, Dostoevsky’s underground man and the rise of the manosphere
Why More Americans Are Seeking Religion on The Daily podcast
Rutger Bregman's How to start a moral revolution, The 2025 BBC Reith Lectures also available on ABC RN Big Ideas

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Changing belief: when does belief return?

Geraldine Doogue — Wed, 13 May 2026 09:07:09 +0000

‘Humanity has never had so many people living beyond the working stage of life as now,' says demographer and social commentator Bernard Salt, 'and we have to work out how to fund it, how to manage it, how to house it, how to care for it and how to deliver a meaning.' Bernard joins Geraldine and Julie first up in this mini-series on changing belief to explore what's disappeared and what might endure in ageing Australia.

Recommendations:

Lamorna Ash, Don't Forget We're Here Forever: A New Generation's Search for Religion, and her interview in The Tablet
Laurence Freeman, ‘An education of the heart’ in The Tablet

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Travelling with an American pope

Geraldine Doogue — Fri, 01 May 2026 02:01:59 +0000

‘Peace be with you all!’ Pope Leo’s first words to the world have resounded across continents — for all to hear. Fresh off the papal plane from Africa, CNN's Christopher Lamb speaks with Geraldine Doogue about what it means for the Church, and for the wider world, to have an American pope.

A year into his papacy, what’s Leo like, up close? What kind of moral and diplomatic voice is he becoming on the world stage? And what happens when the pope’s words are read through the prism of politics?

And a question for listeners: what would you like to hear more of in future episodes? Get in touch via our Facebook page or send a review via your podcast feed.

Mentioned in this episode:

Christopher Lamb's new book, American Hope: What Pope Leo XIV Means for the Church and the World
Peter Wehner's article in The Atlantic, The American Pope vs. the American President
Massimo Faggioli's Commonweal article, 'Cool' Catholicism?

Voices from the Pacific: an immigrant bishop

Geraldine Doogue — Tue, 28 Apr 2026 06:53:09 +0000

When Archbishop Ryan Jimenez met Pope Leo at the Vatican last year, ahead of his ordination as Agaña’s archbishop in the US territory of Guam, he brought a message from the Pacific: ‘Holy Father, we’re sinking.’ During his recent visit to Australia he spoke with Geraldine Doogue about how church leaders can model genuine participation while also managing the impact of climate emergency and global conflict on local communities. And what lessons does Leo’s leadership of the Catholic Church hold for the Pacific?

Archbishop Jimenez was in Australia for the Hélder Camara Lecture at Newman College, Melbourne, and as part of the Bishop Vincent Presents series in the Diocese of Parramatta.

Links:

Archbishop Ryan’s public lecture in Parramatta
Pope Leo’s address to leaders in Angola, and in Equatorial Guinea
Geraldine's interview with Archbishop Ryan at the synod in Rome
Julie's book on the Helder Camara Lectures, Reasons for Hope: Helder Camara, Global Catholicism and the Australian Church

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The disruptive legacy of Pope Francis

Geraldine Doogue — Wed, 01 Apr 2026 01:42:29 +0000

One year on from the death of Pope Francis, fellow Jesuit Frank Brennan joins Geraldine Doogue to reflect on a papacy that opened doors without dismantling tradition. From issues of conscience to authority, women’s leadership, global Catholicism beyond Europe, and amid escalating war, what might Francis’s disruptive vision continue to ask of the Church today?

In the company of Catholic women change makers

Geraldine Doogue — Thu, 12 Mar 2026 05:34:46 +0000

In the week of International Women's Day, co-host Grace Brennan sits down with her Mum, historian and writer Margaret A. Clark, to explore the trailblazing women who helped build Australia’s healthcare system. In Good Company tells the 140-year story of how the Little Company of Mary cared for the sick and dying with radical hospitality. Grace and Margaret reflect on the quiet courage of women who kept showing up wherever care was needed most – at the bedside, in training new nurses, as leaders in maternity health and pioneers of palliative care, whose legacy continues through the work of Calvary Health Care today – and what these women's spiritual commitment means for new generations following in their trails.

In Good Company by Margaret A. Clark was launched in Sydney by Her Excellency the Honourable Margaret Beazley AC KC, Governor of New South Wales, and is available to purchase.

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How do you tell the truth about the Church – and keep your faith?

Geraldine Doogue — Thu, 26 Feb 2026 11:39:58 +0000

Vatican reporter and author Colleen Dulle joins Geraldine Doogue in this new year episode of The Big Tent to reflect on what it means to remain – and grow – as a Catholic in the face of disenchantment and polarisation in the institution. How might Pope Leo's Lenten call to disarm our language, 'refraining from words that offend and hurt our neighbour,' be heard by Catholics everywhere but especially in Leo's American Catholic heartland, schooled in a more permissive speech culture? And how will Leo be known by his words and actions about women and leadership in the Church?

Mentioned in this episode:

Pope Leo's Lenten message, Listening and Fasting: Lent as a Time of Conversion
Massimo Faggioli's Commonweal article, Leo’s Transatlantic Task
Hendro Munsterman's Substack article, Lay People Exercising Authority Over Clergy
Colleen's book, Struck Down, Not Destroyed: Keeping the Faith as a Vatican Reporter and her reporting for America Magazine

The Big Tent Christmas stocking

Geraldine Doogue — Mon, 22 Dec 2025 07:54:49 +0000

Geraldine Doogue, Julie Thorpe, Grace Brennan and Joe Wehbe offer their 2025 Christmas stocking recommendations for summer reading, watching and listening. Join us in 2026 for more conversations in The Big Tent!

The End of Days by Jenny Erpenbeck
Visitation by Jenny Erpenbeck
Reasons for Hope: Helder Camara, Global Catholicism and the Australian Church by Julie Thorpe
Donkey Roads and Camel Treks: A Pilgrim's Guide for Advent by Gemma Simmonds
Ethan Zuckerman, Artificial intelligence isn't magic. It's just weird, in Prospect magazine
Michael Kalisch, We need friends not followers, in The New Statesman
The Summertime of Our Dreams by Michael Pascoe
Metaphors: Understanding Philosophy through Images by Pedro Alcalde and Merlín Alcalde, illustrated by Guim Tío
The Director by Daniel Kehlmann
Leopoldstadt by Tom Stoppard
Freud's Last Session film
Geraldine Doogue, We can make a difference by deciding to act together, in The Australian
Time of the Child by Niall Williams
Ben Abraham's music website
The Dream Life of Mr. Kim drama series
Never Let me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro

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Rethinking antisemitism education after Bondi

Geraldine Doogue — Wed, 17 Dec 2025 00:24:04 +0000

In this special episode of The Big Tent, Geraldine Doogue speaks with Sydney journalist Michael Visontay in the wake of the Bondi Beach terror attack at a Hanukkah festival about its impact on Jewish Australians and the broader Australian community. Drawing on research and his personal experience as the son and grandson of Holocaust survivors from Hungary, Michael’s article on how antisemitism education can backfire, published in the days before the attack, offers a now even more urgent question: how can education truly combat antisemitism in a changing Australia?

Recommendations:

Michael's article: Mishandled antisemitism education is not just ineffective, it’s dangerous
The Jewish Independent editorial: A message from TJI at this time of profound grief
Massimo Faggioli in Commonweal, No More Nostalgia: It’s time to talk about Vatican II in new ways
Relisten to The Big Tent episode, Bridges not walls: Nostra Aetate at 60
Michael Visontay's book on his family history, Noble Fragments: the maverick who broke up the world’s greatest book
Plus Michael's book recommendations: The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson, and The Granddaughter by Bernhard Schlink

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Francis to Leo: the first six months and signs ahead

Geraldine Doogue — Thu, 04 Dec 2025 10:47:47 +0000

As Pope Leo wrapped up his first international visit, Geraldine Doogue spoke to Pope Francis’ biographer Austen Ivereigh about the continuities and priorities of the two papacies. While Leo’s twin messages of peace and unity to Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim believers in Türkiye and Lebanon put interfaith and ecumenical relations at the heart of the new pontificate, Leo is also continuing his predecessor’s agenda through an eco-village that will open to the public on the grounds of Castel Gandolfo. And in his first address to the cardinals who elected him, Leo signalled his commitment to the implementation of Vatican II through synodality, which Austen sees as Leo’s roadmap for the Church in our times. Plus Austen’s reading tips to help us distil the times we’re living in.

Grace Brennan and Joe Wehbe on faith unfiltered

Geraldine Doogue — Fri, 07 Nov 2025 00:59:43 +0000

What does it mean to be Catholic in 2025? Does faith need a label? Geraldine Doogue and Julie Thorpe welcome Grace Brennan and Joe Wehbe to explore their search in The Big Tent.

For Grace, growing up in a Catholic home before moving to the bush and founding a business while raising four children, her connection to a faith community feels like being a guest in her own home. While for Joe, a community builder with Maronite roots and Jesuit schooling, faith is tied to purpose: 'it feels very authored.'

Join Geraldine, Julie, Grace, and Joe in a candid conversation for anyone questioning, searching, or simply curious.

Catch up with Grace and Joe earlier on Plenary Matters.

The Big Tent picks:

Joe - Japanese anime series ONE PIECE
Grace - Shtum: A Novel by Jem Lester
Julie - The Café With No Name by Robert Seethaler
Geraldine - To Heal a Fractured World: The Ethics of Responsibility by Jonathan Sacks

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Bridges, not walls: Nostra Aetate at 60

Geraldine Doogue — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 22:16:44 +0000

This month marks 60 years since Nostra Aetate, the landmark Vatican II document that transformed Catholic relations with Judaism and other world religions. Geraldine Doogue speaks with Mary Reaburn, a Sister of Our Lady of Sion whose order was instrumental in the rescue of Jews during the Holocaust, to reflect on the document’s origins and its enduring relevance amid current global divisions. 'Real dialogue is the salvation of our world,' Mary tells Geraldine.

Mentioned in this episode:

David Neuhaus, The Writing of the Declaration "Nostra Aetate" in La Civilità Cattolica
Messianism and the Middle East: leave the end times in God’s hands, editorial in The Tablet
Centre for Biblical Formation in Jerusalem

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Building hope through housing

Geraldine Doogue — Sun, 28 Sep 2025 10:20:22 +0000

How can churches help to solve the housing crisis? According to Rob Stokes, former NSW Liberal minister and now chair of Faith Housing Australia, tens of thousands of social and affordable homes could be built on church-owned land. He joins Graham West, former NSW Labor minister and now CEO of St Vincent de Paul Society Housing Australia, in The Big Tent with Geraldine Doogue to share how faith communities are repurposing their property to build essential housing. It's a model of Australia's multicultural, multi-faith communities in action, in partnership with government and industry, providing homes to some of the nation's most vulnerable members.

Find out more about Faith Housing Australia: https://fha.org.au/

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Massimo Faggioli on the zombies walking among us

Geraldine Doogue — Fri, 19 Sep 2025 09:20:52 +0000

Following threats of legal action, and restrictions on his freedom of movement and expression, the Italian-born, US-resident scholar of church history and politics Massimo Faggioli has landed in Ireland to take up his new post at Trinity College Dublin's Loyola Institute. So how will a US-born pope respond to what Massimo describes in American Catholicism as 'an army of zombie ideas that we thought were dead'?

Recommendations:

Antonio Spadaro, 'Trump & the Grand Theatre of the World,' in Commonweal
Massimo Faggioli's latest Commonweal piece, 'Continent at a Crossroads? Europe and the rise of right-wing Catholicism'
Geraldine Doogue on the Schumann Declaration and the pope in Eureka Street

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Faith on the digital frontlines

Geraldine Doogue — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 11:50:09 +0000

How does the Church stay mission-centred in a machine-centred world? That question preoccupies Kim Daniels, Director of the Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life at Georgetown University, who is also the coordinator of the Synod study group tasked by Pope Francis to report on how the Church is meeting people online.

'It's about more than just using tools,' Kim tells Geraldine, 'it's about being present and building relationships in the digital environment.'

It's a message she's taking back to the new pope, Leo XIV, as he drafts his first social encyclical amid an AI revolution.

Links:

Austen Ivereigh's article, 'Not for likes but for love...' in The Tablet
Christopher White's book, Pope Leo XIV: Inside the Conclave and the Dawn of a New Papacy, published by Loyola Press, also available in Australia through Garratt Publishing
Catch up on presentations by Hélder Câmara lecturers Dr Nora Nonterah from Ghana and Cardinal Stephen Chow SJ from Hong Kong during their visits to Australia in September.

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Storytelling as mission

Geraldine Doogue — Fri, 05 Sep 2025 02:54:19 +0000

Lana Turvey-Collins joins Geraldine Doogue in The Big Tent to share her story from facilitating Australia's Plenary Council to launching formation.org.au – a new national platform to support and connect leaders in formation across Catholic ministries. 'The more time we take to sit, be still and slowly listen to one another's story and share of your own story, the more connected we are and the more opportunity we have to experience what I dream about is God,' she tells Geraldine.

Learn more about formation.org.au
Catch up on another new leadership program, Catholic Leadership Foundation, featured previously on Plenary Matters

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Voices from the Amazon: A conversation with Mauricio Lopez

Geraldine Doogue — Thu, 21 Aug 2025 08:12:41 +0000

'The Amazon is bleeding, ecologically, culturally and spiritually. And still from within this pain, hope emerges.'

Mauricio López Oropeza, a prominent lay leader from Latin America, joined Geraldine Doogue for this year's 40th anniversary of the Hélder Câmara lecture series to reflect on how the Amazonian experience is reshaping global Catholicism. Bringing the voices from the peripheries to the centre isn't easy, as the Amazon synod showed, but can catholicity become the 'vaccine' against divisions in the Church and the world?

Thanks to Br Mark O'Connor FMS, the Diocese of Parramatta and Newman College, where this conversation was recorded.

Is hope countercultural? Mark Coleridge and the new pope

Geraldine Doogue — Thu, 14 Aug 2025 09:46:05 +0000

In this first episode of The Big Tent, Geraldine Doogue speaks with outgoing Brisbane archbishop Mark Coleridge, about the surprise election of Pope Leo, the legacy of Pope Francis, and how the Church can offer a countercultural narrative amid polarisation and hopelessness in today's world. 'The only thing the God of the Bible is good at doing,' he tells Geraldine, 'is what seems impossible.'

Episode links:

Mark Coleridge's podcast series, The Navel of the Earth: Jerusalem in Time, Theology, and Imagination
David Neuhaus's article in The Tablet, 'What is "hope" right now?'
Launch of Julie Thorpe's book, Reasons for Hope: 'New book tells how a lecture series brought hope to the Australian Church'
And our website, https://thebigtentpodcast.com, with a link to our previous podcast, Plenary Matters.

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Preview: The Big Tent

Geraldine Doogue — Fri, 08 Aug 2025 11:18:05 +0000

We have a new Pope. Does a new era beckon for the Catholic Church in Australia and the world? Join Geraldine Doogue and an inter-generational cast in The Big Tent, hosting an honest, contemporary search that aims, in the prophet Isaiah's words, to 'enlarge the space of your tent'. Welcome!